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stremd22
24-11-2011, 09:40 AM
hey Guys.
The old cooper ST's have pretty much seen their last trip. looking at replacing them with something a little more aggresive looking like some MTZ's or BFG KM2's.. but after searching reviews and other forums most of the day everyone seems to think both this tyres will dig a hole to china in the sand? have any of you guys found this on the d22 nav? and can you suggest something better suited to sand, since this is 80% of the 4 wheel driving to be done down my way..

Dave
24-11-2011, 09:47 AM
Get a All Terrain tyre.

Road tyres are best for sand.

kempseyken
24-11-2011, 09:48 AM
G'day Sam , mate got brand new KM2"s on mine , do quite a bit of beach driving for fishing , find the km2's fine in low range un deflated but you have to take it easy , sometimes let down to about 16psi and stay in high range depends on how far I go but saying that they are an aggressive pattern they will chew in easily if you want them to.

ant
24-11-2011, 09:55 AM
Used to run General Grabber AT's and they were good on sand. Have just put on a maxxis AT. Nice looking tyre good in the wet and from what mates have said great on sand but I haven't had a chance to test yet. Good price too.

nathand22
24-11-2011, 10:00 AM
I run the MICKEY T ATZ 4RIB and i rate them on and off the road. I have had them on Stockton Beach NSW and they performed really well at 20psi. I was going to go lower if needed but it never got to that.

Not that this means anything but according to 4x4 ACTION they performed the best on sand in there latest tyre comparo a few issues back.

gadgets
24-11-2011, 10:03 AM
A set of old bald tyres.

stremd22
24-11-2011, 10:03 AM
G'day Sam , mate got brand new KM2"s on mine , do quite a bit of beach driving for fishing , find the km2's fine in low range un deflated but you have to take it easy , sometimes let down to about 16psi and stay in high range depends on how far I go but saying that they are an aggressive pattern they will chew in easily if you want them to.

How much did you pay for the km2's champ? only problem with them is that they cant get them here until late december.. joke really, how ever i am impatient lol.

gadgets
24-11-2011, 10:05 AM
My mtz's make beaches I used to cruise along a nightmare, I can see the sand flying through the air in my mirrors as i dig holes.

stremd22
24-11-2011, 10:08 AM
I run the MICKEY T ATZ 4RIB and i rate them on and off the road. I have had them on Stockton Beach NSW and they performed really well at 20psi. I was going to go lower if needed but it never got to that.

Not that this means anything but according to 4x4 ACTION they performed the best on sand in there latest tyre comparo a few issues back.

Yea the bloke in the tyre shop said to go these ones, in my MT booklet there is two types of the four ribs.. one with a rounded shoulder and the other is alot more squarer.. tread pattern is roughly the same. which one do you have?

stremd22
24-11-2011, 10:10 AM
My mtz's make beaches I used to cruise along a nightmare, I can see the sand flying through the air in my mirrors as i dig holes.

really that bad hey?! so would you go the atz 4 rib or something different if ya were to do it again?

kempseyken
24-11-2011, 10:10 AM
Sam I paid $335 a tyre fitted 265 75 r16 , I also had to wait about 2 months for them but didn't bother me as my truck still wasn't rego'd after its long rebuild and its not my daily driver anyway

stremd22
24-11-2011, 10:14 AM
wow pretty good price i was quoted $380 without fitting, seems pretty steep to your deal.. Small towns charge what they like i guess..

gadgets
24-11-2011, 10:14 AM
Dont get me wrong, their great on mud but next time im going back to all terrain. Im in WA so lots of sand, might be different for you.

kempseyken
24-11-2011, 10:18 AM
Sam I'm only in a small town , but the guys here are pretty honest and try and give you a good deal if they can.

stremd22
24-11-2011, 10:18 AM
na mate im on the west coast of south oz so mostly dunes and beaches, be pretty simular to west oz id imagine.. choices choices..

kempseyken
24-11-2011, 10:29 AM
Sam if I didnt need a mud tyre I probably wouldnt have them even though lets be honest they look good but where I am the only time they really see sand is on the beach the rest of the time it a lot of mud and rocky dirt roads around here. If you where doing a lot more driving on sand I would probably get a tyre where I didn't have to be as careful , but don't let any one tell you there no good for sand because they are OK.

RustyNav09
24-11-2011, 10:40 AM
Sam have you asked about the mickey t stz? Very nice tread pattern and if you ask me they would go nicely on the sand. They may even be good enough for dirt/mud work but lil of it.

dan1104
24-11-2011, 01:13 PM
I've got a set of Maxxis Bighorns.... only been on the beach with them once.... they were rather terrible actually until i let down to around 12psi

I think If i know that I'm doing another beach trip I'll chuck my all terrains on for it.

stremd22
25-11-2011, 01:36 AM
Alrighty lads just ordered 4 MT ATZ 4 ribs today. couldnt comprehend getting the muddies when there is virtually no mud around here. getting fitted next week so will be letting ya's know how they go after next week end. put them to the test!!

nathand22
25-11-2011, 02:29 AM
Alrighty lads just ordered 4 MT ATZ 4 ribs today. couldnt comprehend getting the muddies when there is virtually no mud around here. getting fitted next week so will be letting ya's know how they go after next week end. put them to the test!!

I think you will be happy, just drop the pressure down to somewhere around 16-20psi and they will do the job nicely. I found that with a little weight in my ute that they bagged out enough at 20psi to get the job done, but if i was empty i would of went lower. You could take them down as low as 12psi to get out of trouble, but i would keep the speed down and be gentle on the wheel.
look forward to your review.
Nathan

stremd22
01-12-2011, 11:09 AM
ok so had the tyres fitted on wednesday, $1400 fitted (265/75/16 atz 4 rib).
very good looking tyre, pretty agressive tread for a non mud terrain, gets a little bit of a hum up on the smoother bitchumen around town but nothing too major.. pretty happy with them so far, cant wait to get them on the dirt this weekend..

nathand22
01-12-2011, 11:51 AM
My tyres have done 40 000km now and have about 50-60% tread left, and that's with doing allot of off road work most of it on rocky terrain.
keen to see what you think of them off road.
Nath

alphabet
01-12-2011, 08:59 PM
I agree with gadgets, as I understand it it's not grip it's surface area.

Old.Tony
01-12-2011, 11:31 PM
I agree with gadgets, as I understand it it's not grip it's surface area.

This was my understanding as well. The more chunky the tread, the more tendency for the loose sand to be flung aside = digging a deeper hole.

It's the very reason why everyone says to lower tyre pressures on sand - greater contact area. You COULD do it with MTs, but you'd have to lower the pressure more and not be too eager on the loud pedal.

BTW, now that you have your tyres and you're ready for the sand, do you have your compressor and deflator(s)? If 80% of your 4WDing is on sand, these would be essentials.

nakedape
02-12-2011, 12:12 AM
I agree with gadgets, as I understand it it's not grip it's surface area.

Yep, I'd agree with that statement too. I do lots of sand driving & its painfully obvious when the mud-tyre brigade had been driving the tracks - each dune will have large divets cut out of the track where they started digging in. To over come this happening with your spanking new MT you'll have to head straight down to 12psi - and then be real careful of the sidewalls (low pressures expose sidewalls to sharp rocks/ sticks etc).

joshman
02-12-2011, 12:15 AM
I've got a set of bighorns with about 50% tread left, and I find them better on the sand than the bravo 771 a/t's mind you the bighorns are 265/75, and the a/t's were only 265/70, but the bighorns bag out a lot more and gave me a lot less hassle in the sand.

Both times I ran 18psi.

BravoBrad
02-12-2011, 12:42 AM
I have found its all in the tyre presures. The more plys (ie the light truck tires and muddies) need to be let down considerably more, as the side walls don't flex as easily.

Well thats my theory.

Wex
02-12-2011, 01:23 AM
I am about to purchase a set of Hankook RF10's - from all reports I have found they are a great tyre - one thing to look for with these is to make sure you get the high load (8 ply) tyres.

nakedape
02-12-2011, 04:29 AM
I am about to purchase a set of Hankook RF10's - from all reports I have found they are a great tyre - one thing to look for with these is to make sure you get the high load (8 ply) tyres.

Size? Price?

After fitting, run straight out and try them in the sand for me - I like the look of these tyres too, so I'll be real interested to hear results

stremd22
05-12-2011, 10:51 AM
Rightio took the atz's for a cruise yesty arvo, had around 28 pound in them due to the corrigated road to get to the beach and went very well.. at the soft stuff lowered them to 16 and cant complain about them at all, went everywhere i wanted to go with no worries at all.. also climbed up this horrible looking section that is rocky with soft sand underneath with massive wash outs, plain nasty! and only seen my mate with a 4 inch lift with 33's in his patrol get up so fairly happy with that.. over all pretty pleased thus far.. definetly reccomend these tyres to someone looking for a good all terrain..