want a tube bar but have a Airbag?

because of the way the regulations classify different vehicles, a Bullbar for any vehicle needs to be crash tested and to comply with ADR 69 and ADR73.
One of them states that if the vehicle has a gross mass less than 2700kg then it needs to comply with the ADR. The navara has a gross mass of 2920kgs so this ADR doesnt apply??

The other is in regards to whether the vehicle is a goods/load carrying vehicle or a passenger vehicle......when you measure the load capacity of the navara and subtract the weight of passengers (measurement used by authorities is 68kg x 5 seating positions) you see that there is more load weight than passenger weight(payload is 1025kg). So this particular ADR rule doesnt apply??

And also the fact that the regulations state that the bullbar must not affect airbag deployment which it doesnt on the navara since the airbag sensors are impact sensors.

Put this forward to engineer in nsw today, awaiting reply, already works in vic. Big thanks to TUFF IFS LUX for doin the hard work.

Good luck with your engineer joshy. For the sake of the 4x4 community, I hope it works

Love having an NA category car. Lets us fit real exhaust stacks.

Any developements??? I'm keen as to build my own, if I can get away with it......

best to take your case to your individual engineer, especialy as each state is diff.

This is how I read the "loop hole"

3. APPLICABILITY AND IMPLEMENTATION
3.1. Applicability Summary
3.1.1. This ADR applies to the design and construction of vehicles as required
by clauses 3.1.2 and 3.1.3 and set out in clause 3.2.
3.1.2. This rule is binding:
(a) from 1 January 2000 on all new model MA category vehicles;
and with a Gross Vehicle Mass of less than 2.5 tonnes.
(b) from 1 January 2004 on all MA category vehicles with a Gross
Vehicle Mass of less than 2.5 tonnes.
3.1.3. For the purposes of clause 3.1.2, a “new model” MA vehicle is a vehicle
model first produced with a ‘Date of Manufacture’ on or after 1 January
2000.
Federal Register of Legislative Instruments F2005L03990
Australian Design Rule 73/00 Offset Frontal Impact Occupant Protection 4
3.2. Applicability Table
Vehicle Category
ADR
Category
Code
UNECE
Category
Code
Manufactured
on or After
Acceptable
Prior Rules
Moped 2 wheels LA L1 N/A
Moped 3 wheels LB L2 N/A
Motor cycle LC L3 N/A
Motor cycle and sidecar LD L4 N/A
Motor tricycle LE L5 N/A
Passenger car MA M1 1 Jan 2000* Nil
Forward-control passenger vehicle MB M1 N/A
Off-road passenger vehicle MC M1 N/A
Light omnibus MD M2 N/A
Heavy omnibus ME M3 N/A
Light goods vehicle NA N1 N/A
Medium goods vehicle NB N2 N/A
Heavy goods vehicle NC N3 N/A
Very light trailer TA O1 N/A
Light trailer TB O2 N/A
Medium trailer TC O3 N/A
Heavy trailer TD O4 N/A

I guess now its a matter of determining whether a Navara is a MA class vehicle or MC
If it is MA then we are exempt, if MC then the ADR applies???? Yes??

Class definitions:

OFF-ROAD PASSENGER VEHICLE (MC)
A passenger vehicle having up to 9 seating positions, including that of
the driver and being designed with special features for off-road
operation. A vehicle with special features for off-road operation is a
vehicle that:
(a) Unless otherwise ‘Approved‘ has 4 wheel drive; and
(b) has at least 4 of the following 5 characteristics calculated when the
vehicle is at its ‘Unladen Mass‘ on a level surface, with the front
wheels parallel to the vehicle’s longitudinal centreline, and the
tyres inflated to the ‘Manufacturer‘s’ recommended pressure:
(i) ‘Approach Angle‘ of not less than 28 degrees;
(ii) ‘Breakover Angle‘ of not less than 14 degrees;
(iii) ‘Departure Angle‘ of not less than 20 degrees;
(iv) ‘Running Clearance‘ of not less than 200 mm;
(v) ‘Front Axle Clearance‘, ‘Rear Axle Clearance‘ or
‘Suspension Clearance‘ of not less than 175 mm each.

PASSENGER CAR (MA)
A passenger vehicle, not being an off-road passenger vehicle or a
forward-control passenger vehicle, having up to 9 seating positions,
including that of the driver.

Sourced from:

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrument1.nsf/0/55BAEF7E423AF0D4CA2570D700213FB0/$file/ADR+73-00++FINAL+FRLI+.pdf
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/0EDCEBC034A579EFCA257375001FE66A/$file/ADR6900Comp1FINAL.pdf
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/8E82D18791960FFACA2573690015E710/$file/ADRDefinitionscomp3FINAL.pdf

Anyone read it different? I'm going to put it forward as Joshy says to a local engineer in QLD.

I thought the Navara was an "NA" - Light Goods Vehicle. It's not a passenger car, it's a commercial vehicle because it's a ute.

An offroad passenger vehicle would be a Patrol, X-Trail, Pathfinder, Prado, RAV4 etc etc. Full cabin-over-contents kinda thing.

4.5. Goods Vehicles
4.5.1. A motor vehicle constructed primarily for the carriage of goods and
having at least 4 wheels; or 3 wheels and a ‘Gross Vehicle Mass‘
exceeding 1.0 tonne.
4.5.2. A vehicle constructed for both the carriage of persons and the carriage of
goods shall be considered to be primarily for the carriage of goods if the
number of seating positions times 68 kg is less than 50 percent of the
difference between the ‘Gross Vehicle Mass‘ and the ‘Unladen Mass‘.
4.5.3. The equipment and installations carried on certain special-purpose
vehicles not designed for the carriage of passengers (crane vehicles,
workshop vehicles, publicity vehicles, etc.) are regarded as being
equivalent to goods for the purposes of this definition.
4.5.4. A goods vehicle comprising 2 or more non-separable but articulated units
shall be considered as a single vehicle.
4.5.5. LIGHT GOODS VEHICLE (NA)
A goods vehicle with a ‘Gross Vehicle Mass‘ not exceeding 3.5 tonnes.
4.5.6. MEDIUM GOODS VEHICLE (NB)
A goods vehicle with a ‘Gross Vehicle Mass‘ exceeding 3.5 tonnes but
not exceeding 12.0 tonnes.
4.5.7. HEAVY GOODS VEHICLE (NC)
A goods vehicle with a ‘Gross Vehicle Mass‘ exceeding 12.0 tonnes.

GVM - 2920kgs
Less payload of - 1025kgs
Gives unladen mass of - 1895kgs
Total passenger weight - 340kgs (68 X 5)

The passenger mass is then just over 1/3 of the payload confirming that the vehicle is NA class.

Still the ADR rules apply.........

Going to speak to an engineer and see if there is a way around it still.

TJM are now selling tube bars that are ADR approved, think the brand is Xrox or something? Not sure if theres a navara one yet.

I just saw an add in the custom guide edition of 4WD Action for that brand being sold by opposite lock...... calling them tomoz!

http://www.oppositelock.com.au/index.php?next_page=product/product_detail.php&product_id=13772&category_id=581

I do still kinda like the idea of building my own though.......

Oooh, post back what they say Yakka.

The site says 'airbag compatible mounting system', is that the same as 'airbag compliant'?

Jason said:

Oooh, post back what they say Yakka.

The site says 'airbag compatible mounting system', is that the same as 'airbag compliant'?

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Been watching this thread - I don't want to contribute unless I can help.

Their quote seems very carefully worded.....perhaps a phone call to the seller would clear up the matter? Ask for details on certification. See if bars are airbag certified for X vehicle etc. If the response is "They don't need to be certified" then there's your answer...

X-ROX bars are air bag compliant, but only available for D40 at this stage...... DAMMIT!

Outback Accessories are the supplier, not sure if they are the manufacturer. Might give them a call too to see if they are planning on doing a D22 version. They are located in WA (5 Abaya St, Jandakot). Any WA members want to call in and give them a stir along to get the D22 version going?????

Monster rides have the XROX bar & sliders, ADR approved and airbag compatible for the D40, thought about it but I think its too "comp truck" looking for the D40