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Benengel

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Hey guys,
After feathering the clutch for about 3 minutes maybe 5
Reversing a trailer up hill, my clutch has developed a clutch shudder when taking off now and also when down shifting there is a weird feeling like as if you drop the clutch too fast and get wheel skid.
It also still smells of clutch nearly 24 hours and 300km later.
Could this just mean the fly wheel needs skimming or is it a new clutch inbound ?
Cheers for.any advice
 
Sounds like both, flywheel machining and clutch, though I don't know of any easy way to be sure. Taking the gearbox out of these to have a look is a pain in the arse, to put it mildly. How many miles? I changed the clutch at 300k, but only because I had to change a $15 thrust bearing, so thought I might as well. It wasn't too bad though.
 
Thanks for the reply,
It's done around 110k on the clock so maybe 65k miles.
The smell has started to go away but comes back if.i have to ride the clutch at all.
And there is still a small shudder when starting off from a stand still.
It doesnt slipping when driving as far as I can tell so I'm thinking of just waiting till it gets worse because as you basically said if your going to do the work to get in there to just do one thing you might aswell do it all.
I was thinking of going for a aftermarket excedy clutch if any one had any experience with them?
 
That's not many km's for a clutch, think I'd wait and see what happens too. There can be other less obvious problems in there but without looking, who knows? Mine was in reasonable nick at 300k kms, not much towing though but a lot of clutch work/ riding the clutch over steep obstacles off road. Which is probably what stuffed the thrust bearing.

Exedy seems alright from what I hear. You can usually get the flywheel machined at a brake repair shop. One I took it to machined it while I waited for about $30 from memory. Make sure you research it before you buy though. I can almost guarantee you won't want to be taking the gearbox out again, unless you have access to a hoist and a few strong mates to help you, or you're a masochist lol. Heavy awkward mofo's they are.
 
i think you will have a dual mass flywheel and clutch setup in it from factory, pretty sure dual mass cant be machined and is a throw away item, get a single mass conversion, atleast then you dont have to pay the rip off amount every time a clutch goes the way of the dodo
 
^ Well there you go, never knew the D22 came out with a DM flywheel. Thought they were only on "soccer mum"type vehicles/ utes lol. One of the things I always liked about the D22 is that it's mostly old school. Though I have an old zd30 model and mistakenly view all of them that way.
 
i just looked on navlife website , there is dual mass flywheels on their clutch listings as well as conversion kits,so they definately do have them in some models
 
Not doubting you mate. I find it surprising is all, always imagined the d22 as a basic workhorse type vehicle.
 
yeh i think the clutches are pretty weak in d22 probably cause they are gutless when you need some power reversing up hiils or hooking trailers etc
 
Benengel said:
Hey guys,
After feathering the clutch for about 3 minutes maybe 5
Reversing a trailer up hill, my clutch has developed a clutch shudder when taking off now and also when down shifting there is a weird feeling like as if you drop the clutch too fast and get wheel skid.
It also still smells of clutch nearly 24 hours and 300km later.
Could this just mean the fly wheel needs skimming or is it a new clutch inbound ?
Cheers for.any advice
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Did same yesterday reversing boat into tight space and feathered clutch for too long. Felt soft, burnt smell, and shuddering on clutch release between gear change. Didn’t drive it any further parked up in garage! I presume safe to drive to repair shop for diagnostics? Thai built 2010 D40 ST 4x4 (95000 only on the clock, owned since new). Now wondering if 4Low would not have been a better option?
 
You could have used 4LO but negotiating a trailer into a tight space often requires significant steering adjustment and that will cause the drive train to bind up, making it worse.

Once the clutch/flywheel cools down you should be able to drive it. If it's happened before, you could take it to a clutch specialist (but any mechanic workshop should be able to do a clutch/flywheel). If it has a dual mass flywheel, consider replacing it with a single mass flywheel - the car will vibrate a little more, but you won't have anywhere near as bad a heat problem with the clutch. You can still overheat it - absolutely, it's a given that towing strains the drive line and if you feather the clutch a lot it'll heat up - but a single mass flywheel dissipates heat much better than a dual mass, so the single mass can take more punishment than the dual.
 
Old.Tony said:
You could have used 4LO but negotiating a trailer into a tight space often requires significant steering adjustment and that will cause the drive train to bind up, making it worse.

Once the clutch/flywheel cools down you should be able to drive it. If it's happened before, you could take it to a clutch specialist (but any mechanic workshop should be able to do a clutch/flywheel). If it has a dual mass flywheel, consider replacing it with a single mass flywheel - the car will vibrate a little more, but you won't have anywhere near as bad a heat problem with the clutch. You can still overheat it - absolutely, it's a given that towing strains the drive line and if you feather the clutch a lot it'll heat up - but a single mass flywheel dissipates heat much better than a dual mass, so the single mass can take more punishment than the dual.
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Awesome thx for advice Tony
 

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