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Old 16-08-2019, 10:34 AM
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I like that you're thinking of getting another saw Tony, but be aware that it's addictive lol. Also, buying chainsaws is a minefield! Even the 2 major brands have different grades of saws.

Basically, if you have a saw under a certain power, you'll have a small mount bar on it. If your saw has a small mount bar, it runs LP chain.

If your saw is over that power threshold, you'll have a large mount bar on it, with much heavier regular profile chain.

There are exceptions, where quite small saws run large mount bars & performance suffers as a consequence. Some 45 - 60cc saws have large mount bars & don't run to their potential as a consequence. I had a Stihl MS260C (52cc) with a large mount bar & it was a slug! Stihl actually sell small mount kits to fit them & those that have, reckon the saw is a beast afterwards.

There's also the old chestnut of the Pro saw vs Home-owner saw thing (land owner, farmer or whatever)

Most home owner chainsaws are pretty ordinary IMO. The MS391 that you mention is an exception, it's a good saw IMO. But, there's cheaper pro saws in that category, the Makita 6100 is king in that class. In fact, the Echo 590 Timber Wolf & the Echo 620 are also a cheaper, better saws. But, the 6100 is the pick of the bunch. The 391 is a good saw, but would come last in that company & is the most expensive saw in the pack.

Getting back to your MS180; have you tried wedding caking when you cut up blocks? A nice short 12" - 14" bar, a sharp .050 3/8LP Oregon chain & you'll rock it lol.

PS: a stretched chain = poor oiling, or a crap chain.
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Old 17-08-2019, 12:38 AM
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I'm not familiar with the term "wedding caking" apart from the obvious.


My chain rarely stretches nowadays, I keep the pressure on the bar light, the oil reservoir filled and as far as I'm aware, the chain is a reasonable quality one. It was cut to length for me by the Raymond Terrace Stihl shop, and they could have used crap chain, so it's anyone's guess except that it's lasting well so I can't complain.


As for my next saw ... I've never considered Makita. The local guy is a Stihl dealer and he's a nice bloke (and has added metal teeth to my saw for free in the past, the MS180 has plastic teeth and mine were stuffed). He's also selling the 391 at around the same price that I can get that Makita for - near enough for me, anyway. And since I have to save up for it now, I'm not buying until next winter anyway. The joys of being retired do come at a price!
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Old 18-08-2019, 11:40 AM
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Re wedding caking; think of the log as the cake & your saw as the knife. if the log is too deep to noodle all the way through, cross cut in from any side after you've cut your slices & bits will fall off the log as you cut. Like I say, I don't cut firewood, but I use wedding caking on large palms, because they don't hold up to regular cross cutting and you can't wedge them. Square bits, or pizza slices, it doesn't matter which.

Plastic cutters Tony???

The 6100 Makita was just a suggestion Tony. The 391 is a good saw. If you can get one for that price, why not! I just Googled chainsaws & came up with a Makita 9010 for the same price at Gasweld, so there goes any money for 4WD'ing for a while lol! (not suggesting a 9010 for you, but I can't resist at that price)

Half your luck being retired! I took the top off 9 trees this week & am still sore and it's Sunday lol.
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Old 18-08-2019, 08:56 PM
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I don't know what to call the spiky teeth that grip the log while you're cutting through it. The MS180 comes with plastic ones moulded into the body, but has two screw holes to allow for a metal plate with the spikes to be attached. This guy grabbed one off another saw and put it on mine.


Since I just cut firewood from fallen timber, I just cut segments that are 300-350mm long and load them in the ute, and split them after I get them home.
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Old 19-08-2019, 09:51 AM
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I don't know what to call the spiky teeth that grip the log while you're cutting through it. The MS180 comes with plastic ones moulded into the body, but has two screw holes to allow for a metal plate with the spikes to be attached. This guy grabbed one off another saw and put it on mine.


Since I just cut firewood from fallen timber, I just cut segments that are 300-350mm long and load them in the ute, and split them after I get them home.
Ahh, bucking spikes. The yanks call them "Dawgs" (dogs) They're for "bucking" logs. They help prevent/reduce kickback when using a huge saw.
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Funny stuff that can happen cusing chainsaws lol!
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Old 19-08-2019, 11:54 AM
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Default Funny stuff that can happen cusing chainsaws lol!

So, seeing as we're discussing chainsaws, I thought I'd share what I found to be a humorous story that happened to me using them!

I cut down a Ficus tree for a customer & she said to leave the stump, but poison it, so I did.

In this pic, you can see where I cut into the stump, just inside the cambium (under the bark) & also see the green dye from the weed killer that I put into the cuts. Job done!


A few weeks later, the customer calls to say that there's "sap" coming out of the stump. I'm thinking "impossible", I killed it! So I went for a look...... here's the stump;

There were blow flies everywhere & it stank to high heaven! Raw sewerage was leaking from it! It would seem that while the tree was alive, it had broken into a sewerage pipe below ground & had been feeding on the contents, yum!
I've never seen anything like it before, or since (thankfully lol)

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Old 19-08-2019, 11:30 PM
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must have been a super healthy tree before you chopped it down, with all those nutrients to feed on!
just as well she didn't ask you to remove the stump as well, so, would you have, had she asked you to?
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Old 20-08-2019, 06:48 AM
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It was doing well, till the ring a ding of a two stroke sang in it lol.

Yup, I would have removed the stump had she asked! There was no indication of the effluent while we were cutting it.

I'm guessing that the whole cambium was full of the stuff, so we were probably cutting through it while we were dismantling the tree! Interesting thought really, as I put the logs out in the street as free firewood & they were taken very quickly. Someone was likely burning poo the following winter!
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haha, probably a lot of cross blaming going on, as to who opened their lunch box!
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