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Asylum seekers to be released from detention
PM By Liz Hobday and staff
Updated November 25, 2011 20:49:59

The Federal Government will start using bridging visas to process asylum seekers in the community in the coming days.

Immigration Minister Chris Bowen says those granted the visas have undergone initial checks and security clearances and will live with family or friends while their requests for asylum are processed.

The new rules will not allow asylum seekers to access Centrelink services but they will be allowed to work.

The Government announced the decision to use bridging visas as part of its onshore processing plan for asylum seekers after the Malaysia refugee swap deal collapsed.

Mr Bowen says his department has approved 27 bridging visas for asylum seekers but expects that figure will rise to about 100 a month.

"At least that's what I see as being the initial - 100 a month - and we'll see how it goes," Mr Bowen said.

"Numbers over and above that into the future depend on the rates of arrivals."

Mr Bowen says onshore processing will continue until the Opposition agrees to support changes to the Migration Act.

"The Government's position remains that having processing offshore is an important deterrent to making that boat journey, that dangerous boat journey," Mr Bowen said.

"But we work within the practical realities and we work lawfully, and until Mr Abbott acknowledges that his obstructionism means that we can't have offshore processing, we need to process people onshore."

"Because of his addiction to saying no, (Mr Abbott) will not allow offshore processing."

But the Opposition slammed the new measures and says the Government is being reckless by using bridging visas for asylum seekers who arrive by boat.

Immigration spokesman Scott Morrison says it further winds back the Howard government's border protection policies.


Audio: Boost to bridging visas (PM)
"No government who is serious about border protection would've announced these measures today," Mr Morrison said.

"It will fling the door open for boats to come to Australia. It will create a sea lane for people smugglers.

"This is not the decision of a government who believes in border protection, this is the decision of a government which has capitulated to the Greens, giving them everything they want on this issue.

"And I think it is a reckless decision that will see more boats come to Australia at the most perilous and dangerous time of the year."

Welcome change
Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young says legislative change is needed to make processing in the community a matter of course.

"People should only be in detention for their health and security checks," she said.

"There's no point keeping people locked up for months and years on end until they're broken, until they're damaged, and then move them into the community. We need to be having this as a matter of course."

But the decision has been welcomed by refugee advocates.

Pamela Curr from the Asylum Seeker Resource Centre in Melbourne says the announcement is an answer to a prayer.

"Detention at the moment is in crisis and people are dying; in fact six people have died in under a year. Other people are losing their mental health, some never to recover. So this is very welcome," she said.

But she is one of several refugee advocates with concerns about the way the process will be handled.

"The Government must also come to the party. Specifically, the Government has given people the right to work, many of these people don't have English. In order to go into a dangerous work place, say a factory, where many of them will wind up, they will need English in order to be safe.

"So what we're asking is that there is vocational English at a minimum."

Community support
Paul Power, the chief executive of the Refugee Council of Australia, has also welcomed the announcement and says it is now up to the community to help support asylum seekers.

"Perhaps one of the implications of this decision is that people who feel strongly about this issue also need to find ways to assist the Government to find appropriate accommodation and support options," Mr Power said.

"Certainly the Refugee Council and the organisations involved in our network will be doing that."

Mr Power is also pleased the appeals process will be streamlined so claims will be heard by the Refugee Review Tribunal regardless of whether the person arrives by boat or plane.

"I think what the Government's done today has drawn a line in the sand and said we actually have reasonably fair and robust onshore asylum system and any asylum claim determined in Australia can actually be processed under the one system," he said.

"It's just common sense, really."

But the chair of the Government's Detention Health Advisory Group, Professor Louise Newman, says specialised support will be needed for the many asylum seekers with mental health problems.

"I think the issue that's going to be complex is how best to have the sorts of support that are needed in the community," Ms Newman said.

"There needs to be some fairly rapid planning, particularly for mental health services and supports and health services.

"These are a very vulnerable group of people and I think they are quite high in terms of service needs. So the sooner that planning starts the better."

They're allowed on the mainland now.

Watch the boats roll in and more of them come by plane.

So long, good Australia.

These scum will turn the place into some Afghan city etc.

We have already lost enough rights because of these "New" Australian's.

Can we have John Howard back ?
 
Oh and I will also add.

Those Scum who burned down the detention centre buildings, should be thrown in gaol.

Say if I burned down a school, would I not go to prison.
 
yep its unbelievable what benefits those leaches are given, while our veterans and pensioners get sweet FA.
It just doesn't make sense how well they get treated, while the people who fought for our country and paid taxes all there lives have to now fight the government for every cent. Bloody politicians
 
We can thank the UN for that.

Our politicians just keep giving into everything they want.

Personally, I wish the UN would piss off and keep there nose out of our affairs.
 
nathand22 said:
yep its unbelievable what benefits those leaches are given, while our veterans and pensioners get sweet FA.
It just doesn't make sense how well they get treated, while the people who fought for our country and paid taxes all there lives have to now fight the government for every cent. Bloody politicians

Well said!!
 
I was talking to a bloke last week that had a different point of view.

He said, If the smugglers were charging say $25k-30k, to bring them in, the government should set up in opposition. Charge them $25k (yes, nearly the same amount, but just a bit cheaper) For the 25k, process them to ensure they are worthy etc (say 5k), Fly/boat them out on a safe vessel.(1k) Put them through some courses in Australian ways, and English lessons (say 5 to 10k) and then place the rest in a fund, which pays them a very minimal allowance per week, until they are settled and paying their own way.

Not saying it’s the way forward, but it was an interesting point of view.
 
Maybe a good idea.

But the ones around here, dont work.

I see them walking there kids to school and picking there kids up from school.

Next point, there taking up Department of Housing places.

Call me whatever, I dont want them here.

There people destroyed there country, they will destroy ours to.

Throw 2 grenades on there boat decks and let them sink.

We have lost enough rights.

Remember as a kid, you use to sing christmas carols in school ?

You cant even do that at some schools now, because the muslim kids might get offended.

From what I hear, Public schools dont even have Cross's anymore because it offends other religions.

This country was built on Christian Morals (Except the Priests who liked the Alter boys to much). Thats all disapearing.
 
the local KFC near my mums thats been there since the 70's wont serve bacon anymore cause Fawkner is overun with muslims. GAGF
 
why is it that our fearless leaders are so quick to bow to the load minorities??
i will never understand that, because sooner or later they will become the noisy majority and be really running the whole show. Then we will really be in the s@$t
 
These scum will turn the place into some Afghan city etc.

Well that is what happens when you go charging into other countries to play soldiers.

AFAIK, must of the current boat people are Sri Lankan, but they are far out numbered by the ones who come by aircraft ad overstay their visas.

Little Johnny actually made it worse by declaring that if you did 6months of full time study here, then you could stay permanently.
 
There people destroyed there country, they will destroy ours to.

Nah Dave we actually helped do that by butt kissing Bush when he invaded.

Given that even Australian soldiers let slip that it isn't exactly safe being around the US Army when you're on their side, imagine what it is like for the common people when the US Army performs military intelligence.
 
screw john howard, BRING IN PAULINE HANSON, she'll fix this shit up
 
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Two asylum boats with over 200 intercepted

Two boats carrying more than 200 asylum seekers have been intercepted by border protection units off the West Australian coast.

The first was detected by a defence Orion AP-3C surveillance aircraft overnight on Wednesday and was later met by HMAS Ararat north east of Christmas Island.

It's believed there were 110 passengers and four crew on board.

The second vessel was found north of Christmas Island early on Thursday by defence aircraft and had 103 passengers and two crew on board.

"Border Protection Command will now make arrangements for the passengers to be transferred to Christmas Island, where they will undergo initial security, health and identity checks and their reasons for travel will be established," Home Affairs Minister Brendan O'Connor said in a statement.

Mr O'Connor said the new arrivals will put more pressure on Australia's detention centre network.

"The minister for immigration has been expediting the process in recent times, that's certainly relieved the pressure on our resources on Christmas Island," he said.

"But when you're getting vessels of this size, arriving in this manner, of course it places greater pressure on our agencies."

Mr O'Connor said more people awaiting processing would be released into the community, after the appropriate checks had been done.

Who would of thought.

There flooding in now.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8382680/boat-intercepted-off-christmas-island
 
Here is an email that was going around awhile back from a war veteran to the PM.
Have a read and see what you think



( If this is ‘fair dinkum’......I’ll bet he doesn’t elicit any response from our illustrious leader!)
Subject: GILLARD EMAIL

A Vietnam Veteran (A Company 7RAR Vietnam) Dave Harrison sent this letter to PM....Send it on at will....TO ALL


EMAIL SENT TO PRIME MINISTER GILLARD 16 March 2011


David Harrison

Address taken out.


Dear Prime Minister Gillard,


I would like to express my concerns about the current situation with muslim Asylum Seekers/ Refugees/ illegal immigrants.

I am a Vietnam veteran and fought for Australia. I went to war when my country asked me without question and I am proud to say I am Australian who loves my country. I am a member of the Frankston RSL club with the largest membership in Victoria and visit on a regular occasion to talk to my friends. All the people I talk to have the same view as I do on the muslim people coming into our country.


This email will be put on the notice board and everyone's attention will be brought to it as they enter the RSL. Your response will also be put on the notice board. The RSL has over 3,000 members.

I will also sent this to everyone that I have their email address and ask them to pass it on to all the other people they know. I guess this will get to approx 7 to 8,000 people. Maybe more.


Therefore I ask for real answers to my questions.


I have lived in the Philippines and Thailand and understand what the muslims are trying to do in the southern parts of those countries.

They are trying to get their own Islamic states and want to live under their own laws and rules. They are killing everyone that stands in their way. Men, women and children and even babies.

In Thailand they are killing all the teachers and burning down the schools to force the kids to attend Islamic schools so they can covert them to Islamic/muslim.


This is already happening in Australia where the Government and other authorities are changing the rules to suit the muslims.


Take Dandenong area for example, the kindergartens and pre schools now do not celebrate Christmas, Easter and other world Christian events because all muslims there would be offended. Therefore the Australian kids are being discriminated against in their own country. THIS IS AUSTRALIA not some other muslim country.


Another example is a school in Coburg were having a school BBQ and the few muslim women on the committee ordered only halal meat. Therefore the Australian kid had to miss out on the BBQ or eat muslim meat. Your Centre Link and other government departments are banning Christmas decorations and the worst disgrace is that these Government Departments are stopping their staff observing the minute silence on the 11 of November. How dare your department’s heads instruct their staff in this way. These are all to suit the muslims that hate our country and our way of life here.

This is discrimination against Australians and kids, which is a real disgrace.

Another stupid thing your Government has done is bringing the Sudanese to Australia. This is a Christian country however your Government has accepted the refugees from the northern Sudan, which are muslim, and not from the south which are Christian. How stupid. Now every Sudanese woman I see is pregnant to get the baby bonus. Again our taxes at work !!!!!!.


You and Kevin Rudd allow and welcome the Muslim boat people and allow them privileges the Australian people don't get. Boats are coming every day and there are another 10 to 15,000 muslim people waiting in Indonesia and 10,000 in Malaysia that will be coming here. The Sri Lankan muslims are on boats now as we speak coming direct here.

How many do we have to take before they start bombing my children and friends. You know and I know it won't be long before we get the same problems and bombings as other countries.


WHO IS RESPONSIBLE THEN !!!!!!!!!!


People smuggling around the world is a very serious offence, however your Government welcomes it.


My suggestion,

When the boats come here, have the captain and crew charged and jailed for people smuggling. A long jail sentence of 7 to 10 years as this will be a deterrent to other people smugglers.

Then fly the boat people back to their own country. We spend over $400 million to build the detention centre on Christmas Island and many millions in keeping them and giving them things that many Australian can only dream about. The muslims destroy the centre on a regular basis, which costs us taxpayers many millions of dollars to repair it. Then we repair it again and again.

Now your government is going to build another near Darwin at cost of over 90 million and 70 million to run it per year. Is this a joke on us taxpayers?

Or is this your Government just saying welcome to all muslims.


What added value are muslims to Australia.


They don't work just take our taxpayer dollars.

Don't want to call Australia home.

Don't accept our Christian culture.

Don't want to speak English.

Don't want to abide by our laws.

Don't want to integrate.

Don't want to go to our schools.

Don't want to play sport.

And many other don’ts.


I recently went on the Clean up Australia campaign in 2 locations with hundreds of other people attending. Guess what!!!! NOT ONE MUSLIM OR SUDANESE THERE TO HELP. All were in their public houses relaxing and watching TV at what they think are stupid Australians working.

All the TV footage on the shocking Queensland floods with all the people helping to trying to clean up. I did not see one muslim or Sudanese helping. NO

WHY, they only care about how much money and benefits they can get out of Australia.

Do you ever see muslims or Sudanese living in cardboard boxes or cars with their children? NO, they are all living in our public housing FREE but Australians, if they can get one, have to pay.


MY QUESTIONS TO YOU AND YOUR GOVERNMENT.


* How many muslims and Sudanese refugees live in Australia now?

* What percentage of the Australian population are each group now?

* How much of total taxpayers money spent on them for the 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 years? The total amounts.

* How much to you believe will be spent this year 2011 on refugees?

* How much tax payers money is in the current budget to support these people?

* If you need extra money for all the muslims boats coming, can you tell me which budgeted area the money will come from? Is it Hospitals, Education or reduction of Australians old age pension?

* What percentage of Australian welfare payment do these refugees represent of the welfare budget?

* Are you going to deport the muslim trouble makers and leaders at Christmas Island currently destroying public property?

* Why don't you allow all the Queensland and Victorian flood victims living in tents and other shared accommodation to live in motels like the muslims at the taxpayer’s expense?

* Why didn't you pay for the families to attend the funeral of Sapper Jamie Larcombe who was killed recently like you did for the muslim boat people and pay for the funeral as well?


* Is it true that these refugees get the following payments?

* Why do these muslim get a hardship allowance?



BENEFIT

AUSTRALIAN AGED PENSIONER

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN AUSTRALIA

Weekly allowance

vet = $253.00

immigrant =$472.50

Weekly Spouse allowance

vet = $56.00

immigrant = $472.50

Additional weekly hardship allowance

vet = $0.00

imm = $145.00




TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT

vet = $16,068.00

illegal immigrant = $56,680.00



Some interesting Facts....



By the way the boat people are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS not asylum seekers or refugees.


Myself and most people at the RSL (WHO ALL VOTE) would like your response to the questions and what action you are taking to stop the muslim boat people coming here.


Regards,


David Harrison. (Butch Harrison)

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theres a letter been leaked over here asking them to fetch in there gas and electric cards so they can be filled upto last them over chrimbo when office is shut,as far as i know iraq/afghanistan/somali are all nice warm places this winter so why not use the money to send em back
 
check out the difference in how much money the veteran gets compared to the illegal immigrant/refugee living in australia.
tell me how that is fair....
 
We can thank the UN for that.

"Lets save the world by multiculterism" Cause it works so so well.

Take Sydney for example, Middle Eastern's stick to one area, Asian's stick together etc.

I will admit though, on my way home this morning. I seen a Sudanese bloke walking down the street, in what looked like an outfit Id wear to a wedding.

Thats how he can afford it, going by Nath's email.

Oh and what Jace said, send em home.

No wonder rent is so high, they keep bringing the imports in.

Atleast out West its Australian.

Sydney is turning into every other part of the world, were English is a second language.
 

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